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v2; Reality check

I really miss the "Blogs I Read" feature...

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Allow me to share the gist of a conversation I recently had with a long-time academic. This person tried to move from academia to industry, thinking that, after years of teaching and a distinguished academic career, he was qualified for any number of jobs and would get paid oodles more than he was already receiving.

He fielded his resume to three headhunters. One headhunter didn't even bother to call him.  One said she didn't have anything for him and even went so far as to say that it was very rare for academics to transition back into industry.  The kindest one said that she had something for him, but the payscale was only 25 to 50% more than what he was already getting.  A payraise, for sure, but not quite the "oodles" he was expecting. 

It was quite the splash of cold water in his face.  He wasn't as marketable as he thought he was and he was worth no where near what he thought he was worth.  He realized he needed academia as much as academia needed him. 

The experience was rich with lessons.  Humility. A more calibrated sense of self-worth.  A deeper acceptance and appreciation for what he has.  A realization that we all have a shelflife.  Opportunities ripen and pass and if we miss certain windows, they are gone forever. 

posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:00 AM by Didith

# re: v2; Reality check @ Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:56 AM

Lots of people miss "Blogs I Read" and a replacement is in the works. I don't know what it will be like though.
I think that it is often more difficult to move from academia to industry (and the other way around) than a lot of people think. I've made both moves but I was pretty lucky to find the job I have in industry because my experience in academia was relevant to the job. I also have previous industry experience and that helps as well. The number of people who move to industry from academia without previous (i.e. before academia) industry experience is very small in my opinion. I have also noticed that many people in industry who think they have a lot to offer in academia do not get the welcome they expect. Academia tends not to value industry experience except for limited (generally non-tenure track) roles. Only with a PhD can you really get a tenure track position no matter what amazing things you learned in industry. That is because industry doesn’t really prepare one for either teaching or research. Likewise research and teaching does not prepare one for management in industry and without industry experience most academics are really only prepared for early role individual contributor roles. That is not to say that there are not research oriented or valued jobs in industry. There are but they are very rare.

AlfredTwo

# re: v2; Reality check @ Sunday, September 25, 2005 2:23 AM

for now what I did to my blogs I read is that I'm trying to add a link to the sidebar of my blog (which is a few of them still) As for the differences between academia and industry, from my short stint teaching kids in gradeschool, and working part-time for ojt, it's two diffrent fish in the barrel.

Aids

# re: v2; Reality check @ Sunday, September 25, 2005 3:24 AM

Humility, indeed. I believe if you are honestly good and capable, any wise employee will try and retain you. Otherwise the current employee will knows that there is always someone out that will try to poach you. Just my 2 cents.

Bernard

# re: v2; Reality check @ Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:37 PM

it's so sad..i hope it doesn't happen to the person whom i admired most who happen to move from academia to industry....me too, i miss the blogs i ready...honestly, i really like the previous the spoke compared to the new one...

chelchel_am

# re: v2; Reality check @ Monday, September 26, 2005 3:20 AM

it feels scary....

fannysy

# re: v2; Reality check @ Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:00 AM

i miss that feature too... it's hard to keep track of all the blogs now that it's gone.

as for industry and academia... i'm in the industry now, and i think i'll be going to academia soon.

so, i'll probably take you up on that offer you made a while back, if it still stands, that is. and i do plan to push thru with that course you designed. ;-)

thejess


 
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