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Sun VS MS, who's coping who?

I found this VERY interesting post while looking up C#/.Net related T-Shirts (just for kicks).  Not that I really study too much into ASP or .Net history but most people assume C# & .Net is a rip off of Sun's work in Java but it seems only a thread of that is true.  Just look at the following dates...  (The original post is here but I'll paste the dates in case that url disappears)

Originally posted by DC Dalton:

1) 1996 Microsoft releases ASP; in 1998 Sun releases JSP
2) 1997 Microsoft releases ADSI; in 1998 Sun releases JNDI
3) 1997 Microsoft releases MSMQ; in 1998 Sun releases JMS
4) 1997 Microsoft releases Microsoft Transaction Server; in 1998 Sun releases EJB
5) 1998 Microsoft releases MSXML; in 2001 Sun releases JAXP
6) 2000 Microsoft releases Queued Components; in 2001 Sun releases Message Driven Beans
7) 2000 Microsoft releases XML Web Services; in 2001 Sun releases Java Web Services Developer Pack

Now that is interesting.  Obviously the concept of a OS/Hardware independent code was invented with Java, but everything since then MS has done first, sometimes by a full 2 years.

MS haters, eat your hearts out, MS doesn't steal as much as you think.

posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 2:59 PM by travisowens

# @ Friday, April 09, 2004 3:04 PM

Woohoo! Go Microsoft!

punzki

# @ Friday, April 09, 2004 4:16 PM

I never knew this things. Microsoft rules!

jcf

# @ Friday, April 09, 2004 5:36 PM

Wow, that's pretty eye opening. I keep learning more and more about MS that impresses me even more each day.

AdamMB

# @ Friday, April 09, 2004 8:02 PM

You think that OS/Machine independent code was invented for Java? What about the pseudo code and interpreters that were used with DIBOL and FOCAL, oh, I don't know, maybe 30 years ago? And there were the virtual machine type pieces in RSTS/E that let you run RSX and RT-11 (those are operating systems) system calls on RSTS/E. Oh and BTW RSTS/E had garbage collection for BASIC-PLUS over 30 years ago. Java has some new stuff in it but not a whole lot.

AlfredTwo

# @ Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:06 AM

It's never really been a problem of who did what first in my eyes. I just want to know who did it best. Right now my favorite language is C#, but my only real complaints about Java are the VM and that silly packaging system. Granted it's great for organizing, but doesn't mean I like having my program being dependent on the layout of my file system. For the most part though, I still use both C# and Java equally as much just because the ACM programming contest doesn't support C#.

jalt1


 
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