LastHope wrote:

First of all, I'd like an English site

The required data is in English. The rest is not important.

LastHope wrote:

I may post you Italian sites,

non c'è problema

LastHope wrote:

Second, from what I see, that site is talking of Apache servers...not Linux (because I *HOPE* you know that Apache is possible to install also under Windows :)),

yes, it's possible - but in general no one do so -since IIS is much better than Apache, and if you have bought Windows Server - you already have IIS.

LastHope wrote:

and that's are just ads from people who saw defacements...

I have strong feeling that members of this site hack sites themself and put results of this page... In any case you may see the tendency - the share of Apache (~*nix) - is much larger

LastHope wrote:

Aren't you still interested in Microsoft and iCalendar?

Why should I be interested in this? I do not need it, and not going to use

 

I also want to post few questions:

Do you know that  very large part of Windows XP source code was stolen and published on the Web about year ago?

Did everybody from Anti-Microsoft society talk how now they will find 1000 of bugs and create 1000 of viruses for XP?

What happened with that promise?

Nothing, because there weren't such a bugs, and it wasn't so easy to find out, like some pseudohackers thought.

PS: consider that "Windows" = "example that closed source technology can be good"

RunneR wrote:

LastHope wrote: Second, from what I see, that site is talking of Apache servers...not Linux (because I *HOPE* you know that Apache is possible to install also under Windows :)), yes, it's possible - but in general no one do so -since IIS is much better than Apache, and if you have bought Windows Server - you already have IIS.  LastHope wrote: and that's are just ads from people who saw defacements... I have strong feeling that members of this site hack sites themself and put results of this page... In any case you may see the tendency - the share of Apache (~*nix) - is much larger

Sigh...you started with "Do you know what's the most bugged OS" and now you're talking of  "feelings"?

That's not important for statistics :) ^_^

RunneR wrote:

LastHope wrote: Aren't you still interested in Microsoft and iCalendar? Why should I be interested in this? I do not need it, and not going to use

Alright :), but please, don't choose Microsoft as someone that respects standards :))

LastHope

LastHope wrote:

Sigh...you started with "Do you know what's the most bugged OS" and now you're talking of  "feelings"?

I have used word "feeling" about WHO hacked all these servers - and in any case, it's not important who exactly was the hacker - we need to look only on results. And the result is clear - the most hacked servers use Apached (almost equal to *nix).

And do you know the percentage of Apache and IIS? Please, do not show me netcraft - they have report of distribution by domains, not by servers. (e.g. one cheap linux hosting with 100000 home pages - it's 100000 domains).

But if you will search in archieve - you will find the one their report which show distribution by servers - and IIS there have > 50%.  Now they don't make such researches. I guess they just don't like that IIS is the leader. (Yes, they are also MS-haters like w3c).

LastHope wrote:

Alright :), but please, don't choose Microsoft as someone that respects standards :))

Why do you call these standards??? W3C DO NOT HAVE any standards, only recomendations. (You may also meet together with friends and write you own "standard" for HTML - it will have the same value as w3c "standard")

 

RunneR wrote:

LastHope wrote: Sigh...you started with "Do you know what's the most bugged OS" and now you're talking of  "feelings"? I have used word "feeling" about WHO hacked all these servers - and in any case, it's not important who exactly was the hacker - we need to look only on results. And the result is clear - the most hacked servers use Apached (almost equal to *nix). And do you know the percentage of Apache and IIS? Please, do not show me netcraft - they have report of distribution by domains, not by servers. (e.g. one cheap linux hosting with 100000 home pages - it's 100000 domains). But if you will search in archieve - you will find the one their report which show distribution by servers - and IIS there have > 50%.  Now they don't make such researches. I guess they just don't like that IIS is the leader. (Yes, they are also MS-haters like w3c).

You're making a lot of suppositions (that queries aren't so reliable...I'd like to see not the Server program, but the OS): you can hack the server program, but this doesn't mean that you have found a bug in the OS, right? That's why I asked you: "Do you know that Apache can run also under Windows?" That means, that maybe that hack can run also under Linux...didn't think about it? ;)))

I'm not interesting who is the winning leader,I've already told you: everybody needs and use the tool that wants. And stop saying that everybody who looks for standard (again...do you know what's accessibility? I've already asked you...Microsoft NEEDS to work with W3C:
http://www.w3.org/Submission/1997/3/

And about DOM

http://www.w3.org/Press/DOM-core

Please...Microsoft works with them!

RunneR wrote:

LastHope wrote: Alright :), but please, don't choose Microsoft as someone that respects standards :)) Why do you call these standards??? W3C DO NOT HAVE any standards, only recomendations. (You may also meet together with friends and write you own "standard" for HTML - it will have the same value as w3c "standard")

***SIGH*** you STILL prove me that you DON'T READ...
Re-submitting the link.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/books/troubleshooting/solutions/241.asp

Re-quoting

Sending iCalendar and vCalendar Objects The iCalendar protocol was developed for collaborating information between personal information management (PIM) programs over the Internet, independently of differences between program vendors or operating systems. Several major companies were involved in the development of this standard, including (among others) Microsoft, Lotus, and Netscape, so there is wide support for this interface in the computing world today.

Adding some color to the important part (maybe bold also...you'll see it I HOPE!!! ;))

Sending iCalendar and vCalendar Objects The iCalendar protocol was developed for collaborating information between personal information management (PIM) programs over the Internet, independently of differences between program vendors or operating systems. Several major companies were involved in the development of this standard, including (among others) Microsoft, Lotus, and Netscape, so there is wide support for this interface in the computing world today.

Can you read now? :)
And BTW: iCalendar is not a standard of W3C, but of the IETF...still not reading, how boring :(((
Hope you'll change :DDD
Bye

LastHope

kambodza wrote:

I also want to post few questions: Do you know that  very large part of Windows XP source code was stolen and published on the Web about year ago? Did everybody from Anti-Microsoft society talk how now they will find 1000 of bugs and create 1000 of viruses for XP? What happened with that promise? Nothing, because there weren't such a bugs, and it wasn't so easy to find out, like some pseudohackers thought. PS: consider that "Windows" = "example that closed source technology can be good"

Did you post the questions to me? :)
Actually I didn't, and I wouldn'thave cared...why?
Because only idiots would say "I've got the code, I'll find the bug, but before I'll tell you how many bugs I will find and in howmuch time"...
See,there are people who don't understand Windows (as there are a lot of people in this forum that don't understand Linux)...It's not important to attack Windows because "It's the enemy!" (as well for Linux): finding bugs is a way to improve security and the correct way to work for a program...
Just two questions:
--This happened before or after Sasser?
--Explain me why what you said is related to "Windows" = "example that closed source technology can be good"...maybe what you said means "Windows XP" = "Something harder to crack", but I don't see the advantages in the closed source in your message ;)))
Bye

LastHope

LastHope wrote:

Just two questions: --This happened before or after Sasser?

Like I said, "shutdown -a", is it serious threat to system?

LastHope wrote:

--Explain me why what you said is related to "Windows" = "example that closed source technology can be good"...maybe what you said means "Windows XP" = "Something harder to crack", but I don't see the advantages in the closed source in your message ;)))

Anyway, we posted our arguments, so it isn't important do I understand your arguments, or you understand mine, or who quoted, it  is important that those who read this topic understand.

kambodza wrote:

LastHope wrote: Just two questions: --This happened before or after Sasser? Like I said, "shutdown -a", is it serious threat to system?

??? What do you mean?
Sasser was a way to to use RPC (do you know what's that?) to take control of a computer...
Would you like that someone you don't know would be able to control your computer and shut it down? I don't think so...

kambodza wrote:

LastHope wrote: --Explain me why what you said is related to "Windows" = "example that closed source technology can be good"...maybe what you said means "Windows XP" = "Something harder to crack", but I don't see the advantages in the closed source in your message ;))) Anyway, we posted our arguments, so it isn't important do I understand your arguments, or you understand mine, or who quoted, it  is important that those who read this topic understand.

Feel free to answer as you like :))), but in this topic, I don't think that you have explained why Closed Source is better of Open Source...;)))

LastHope

LastHope wrote:

Sasser was a way to use RPC (do you know what's that?) to take control of a computer...

Teach me, please... :) . If he had user privilegies, for example, to delete some system .dll files, or to edit registry, it would be different thing, and it would be dissaster. This way, that was excellent exploit, but he couldn't harm harder to computer with common shutdown, and it was fixed very quickly.

PS. You have built attitudes about Open Source, so I don't have intention to continue arguing in infinity. It isn't about who have  the last word.