When the results are going to arrive?
And when the results of Peer Challenge? Will the full list be available?

TPReal

They're still sleeping. ;)

actually they're up late assembling peer contest results. :)

the results of the peer contest are below. congratulations nadsuki! please email support@wildnoodle.com with your t-shirt size. :)

as far as official round 2 results, my understanding is that those will be announced along with other invitational results sometime today.

peer contest results:

name	countrynamex	schoolname	score
nadsuki	Japan	The University of Tokyo	33276
monae	Japan		27285
TPReal	Unspecified		26338
jayellz	United States	UCLA	25678
Meph	Romania		24910
Pawel Stawarz	Poland	Technical University of Wroclaw	19280
Paul Charlebois	Unspecified		18157
permil	Unspecified		15703
Nudelbrotsuppe	Germany	Universität Karlsruhe	13571
Megamug	United States	Purdue University	10257
Masaki Watanabex	Unspecified		8842
Erwin1980	Unspecified	University of Calgary	6280
r1cs1	Hungary	Illyés Gyula High School, Budaörsx	5796
tos	Unspecified		5755
tyna	Unspecified		4379
pai	Unspecified		4193
czuk	Poland	Wroclaw University of Technology	4098
cheapwine	China	Zhengzhou Univ.	2824
imduxin	Unspecified		1532
dollar	Japan		1206
gszesiek	Poland		482
Mr_Bu	Unspecified		160
ben_a1	Indonesia	University of Indonesia	125
mysanal	Korea	KSA	60
eR	Unspecified		54
korles	Poland	Politechnika Wroclawska	0
gszesiek	Poland	Wroclaw University of Technology	0
Xupu Yang	China		0

brian

Aargh no one can beat nadsuki, I suppose :P
If only monae was on the leaderboard, I would have worked a bit longer yesterday in the night :) Congrats to all. I hope some next Herbert rounds are planned...
TPReal.

Brian can you give use more stats?
I would like to know whose levels where hardest :]

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here are the level stats for the peer challenge:

Level	Author	NumSolves	Avg Time To Solve (HH:MM:SS)	Min Bytes	# Min Byte Solutions	Total Gos	Tot Time Spent	Avg Bytes of Solutions
1	pmnox	0	NULL	NULL	0	37	5:05:47	NULL
2	r1cs1	3	4:12:52	22	3	976	15:28:43	22.0
3	Megamug	1	3:35:15	25	1	470	5:53:38	25.0
4	czuk	10	0:25:33	13	6	633	6:52:41	13.4
5	Erwin1980	1	0:54:35	45	1	45	1:55:48	45.0
6	Pawel Stawarz	6	0:43:00	16	6	369	12:33:36	16.0
7	monae	17	0:20:05	9	8	607	6:34:45	9.9
8	permil	8	1:17:14	17	4	903	22:36:30	17.5
9	pai	1	1:32:15	17	1	92	5:20:27	17.0
10	cheapwine	10	0:10:07	17	10	76	27:51:59	17.0
11	Paul Charlebois	9	0:08:52	21	6	110	3:24:14	21.7
12	nadsuki	1	5:43:54	19	1	413	12:28:42	19.0
13	jayellz	2	0:59:26	23	1	138	2:56:37	23.5
14	Masaki Watanabe	4	1:07:06	27	1	533	5:20:06	29.0
15	Nudelbrotsuppe	3	8:51:19	28	2	598	27:11:04	28.3
16	TPReal	1	1:12:16	12	1	96	3:29:39	12.0
17	czuk	3	0:54:06	18	3	176	4:17:10	18.0
18	Erwin1980	1	0:48:42	41	1	35	1:49:07	41.0
19	Pawel Stawarz	4	1:10:09	30	1	576	7:06:52	34.3
20	permil	14	0:18:15	12	9	440	14:53:42	12.4
21	Paul Charlebois	2	2:32:56	21	2	255	5:30:15	21.0
22	nadsuki	2	1:28:44	14	1	311	4:12:24	14.5
23	jayellz	3	2:29:47	12	3	778	9:14:42	12.0
24	Masaki Watanabe	3	2:08:46	25	2	476	9:14:34	25.7
25	Nudelbrotsuppe	1	2:46:54	21	1	140	6:07:19	21.0
26	TPReal	3	1:24:08	14	3	416	10:01:14	14.0
27	Wild Noodle	6	0:13:00	25	1	167	1:47:31	28.3
28	Wild Noodle	5	0:50:53	14	3	342	5:52:16	14.6
29	Wild Noodle	10	0:37:25	19	1	521	7:13:06	34.1
30	Wild Noodle	6	1:42:45	17	1	336	10:59:12	37.5
31	Wild Noodle	9	0:22:40	42	1	336	4:01:49	47.4
32	Wild Noodle	7	0:25:50	40	2	304	3:42:57	43.1
33	Wild Noodle	10	0:59:11	12	2	613	12:04:59	28.9
34	Wild Noodle	4	0:38:36	30	1	206	12:36:33	34.3
35	Wild Noodle	5	2:22:14	40	1	413	13:48:33	46.2

there are different ways to assess difficulty but as a first pass i would say it is between levels 1, 3, 5, 9, 12, 16, 18, and 25, all of which were only solved by the authors (and in your case, level 1, not even that :) ). these levels were designed by pmnox, MegaMug, Erwin1980 (2), pai, nadsuki, TPReal, and NudelBrotsuppe. Erwin1980 was the only person who designed two "unsolvable" levels.

of all of these unsolved levels, people spent the most time trying to solve level 12, by nadsuki, which is one indication that it is a hard one (of course you could also argue the reverse, that a low time value here might indicate a level that was so hard people didn't even try). we usually use "average time to solve" as the best indication of difficulty, but in cases where the level is not solved except by authors this can't be used.

among levels that were solved by others besides the author, the longest "average time to solve" is level 15, by Nudelbrotsuppe.

if you look at sheer number of attempts to solve the level, the winner is level 2, by r1cs1, which was attempted 976 times (the number of times someone pressed "Go" on that level).

remember that timing stats are approximate, since they undercount people who solve the levels offline, and overcount people who leave that level open in herbert while doing other things.

all that being said, you can draw your own conclusions. :)

brian

Thank you very much for the very interesting stats! :D

Though sadly we cannot access our solutions anymore to compare our work to the stats ;(
But for a few solutions I backed up, I can see, that they are mostly among those with >= 10 solvers.

Anyways, thanks to all the authors for their nice levels and Brian (and co) for making this peer challenge ;D

Btw, I didn't think my level 15 would be so difficult! It didn't use any tricks, not even variables! And the path was (as far as I can remember) completely symmetric.

Level 25 was really not that nice, as it also used A+B (or A-B?) as a parameter for a function. But therefore the shape was marked quite clearly... what wouldn't have helped me either, I guess ;D